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Naveen Francis
2018-04-26 05:56:12 UTC
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Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages Wikimedia projects. https://
test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indic_Maps <https://t.co/gnUev595lv>


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Tito Dutta
2018-04-26 06:30:56 UTC
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Wow, very nice.


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Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages Wikimedia projects. https://
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Arun Ganesh
2018-04-26 06:43:26 UTC
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AMAZING! After a decade this has become a reality to have fully localized
world maps!

Naveen what is the policy on using these tiles, can we include it in
openstreetmap.in ?
Naveen Francis
2018-04-26 07:18:08 UTC
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HI Arun,

I am not aware of the re-usage policy.
Someone from WMF team should clarify on re-usage policy.

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Post by Arun Ganesh
AMAZING! After a decade this has become a reality to have fully localized
world maps!
Naveen what is the policy on using these tiles, can we include it in
openstreetmap.in ?
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Subhashish Panigrahi
2018-04-26 09:08:45 UTC
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For some reason, it is showing names with different spellings instead of
the current spelling on OSM. Any idea why?

Subhashish
Post by Naveen Francis
HI Arun,
I am not aware of the re-usage policy.
Someone from WMF team should clarify on re-usage policy.
Thanks,
Naveen Francis
<http://wikibooks.in>
Post by Arun Ganesh
AMAZING! After a decade this has become a reality to have fully localized
world maps!
Naveen what is the policy on using these tiles, can we include it in
openstreetmap.in ?
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Arun Ganesh
2018-04-26 10:44:19 UTC
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Post by Subhashish Panigrahi
For some reason, it is showing names with different spellings instead of
the current spelling on OSM. Any idea why?
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>
Links to examples? Could be the tile is using slightly older data or could
be rendering issues.
Subhashish Panigrahi
2018-04-26 11:10:55 UTC
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On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
Post by Subhashish Panigrahi
For some reason, it is showing names with different spellings instead of
the current spelling on OSM. Any idea why?
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>
Links to examples? Could be the tile is using slightly older data or could
be rendering issues.
I meant the place names. It is not older names but incorrect/non-standard
spellings. Could be older data as you have mentioned.
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Ashwin Baindur
2018-04-27 11:30:27 UTC
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Can we have maps which are reflective of the GOI's position of the border
of our nation, rather than showing parts of J & K as part of Pakistan? Just
saying... is it possible?
Post by Subhashish Panigrahi
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
Post by Subhashish Panigrahi
For some reason, it is showing names with different spellings instead of
the current spelling on OSM. Any idea why?
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>
Links to examples? Could be the tile is using slightly older data or
could be rendering issues.
I meant the place names. It is not older names but incorrect/non-standard
spellings. Could be older data as you have mentioned.
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Dhaval S. Vyas
2018-04-27 12:24:29 UTC
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Good Sighting Ashwin,

We must show correct borders as per GoI's recognition.

Regards,
Dhaval Sudhanva Vyas
Post by Ashwin Baindur
Can we have maps which are reflective of the GOI's position of the border
of our nation, rather than showing parts of J & K as part of Pakistan? Just
saying... is it possible?
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
Post by Subhashish Panigrahi
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
Post by Subhashish Panigrahi
For some reason, it is showing names with different spellings instead
of the current spelling on OSM. Any idea why?
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>
Links to examples? Could be the tile is using slightly older data or
could be rendering issues.
I meant the place names. It is not older names but incorrect/non-standard
spellings. Could be older data as you have mentioned.
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Subhashish Panigrahi
2018-04-27 14:53:44 UTC
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My two cents - like Wikipedia, OSM is a project that is edited by a global
community. A project like this might not always follow all the guidelines
of all the countries, and recognize some international borders as disputed.
These maps merely use the existing map data from OSM, and I don't think it
is that easy to make such changes to the latter. I am no expert in OSM.
Someone like Arun (Ganesh) might be able to shed more light on this.
However, this is indeed a very important issue.

Subhashish
Post by Dhaval S. Vyas
Good Sighting Ashwin,
We must show correct borders as per GoI's recognition.
Regards,
Dhaval Sudhanva Vyas
Post by Ashwin Baindur
Can we have maps which are reflective of the GOI's position of the border
of our nation, rather than showing parts of J & K as part of Pakistan? Just
saying... is it possible?
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
Post by Subhashish Panigrahi
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
Post by Subhashish Panigrahi
For some reason, it is showing names with different spellings instead
of the current spelling on OSM. Any idea why?
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>
Links to examples? Could be the tile is using slightly older data or
could be rendering issues.
I meant the place names. It is not older names but
incorrect/non-standard spellings. Could be older data as you have mentioned.
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Dhaval S. Vyas
2018-04-26 07:05:17 UTC
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Great work Naveen,

Thanks for sharing. I see some English names on some of the Indic language
maps, is this work in progress? How to have those names displayed in Indic
languages as well?

Thanks in advance,
Dhaval Sudhanva Vyas
Post by Naveen Francis
Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages Wikimedia projects. https://
test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indic_Maps <https://t.co/gnUev595lv>
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Naveen Francis
2018-04-26 07:14:26 UTC
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Thanks to Wikimedia Foundation Collaboration team
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Collaboration>for working on Maps.

This feature enhancement is part of "2017 Community Wishlist Survey".


*Where do the map labels come from?*
The Wikimedia mapping service gets its map data from the open-source
mapping project OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/>. Those
labels are created by OpenStreetMap volunteers. Which means that what
labels are available for which languages varies from location to location
and language to language, depending on what the volunteers have entered

*What can you do if labels are missing?* If a particular label isn’t
available in the language you need, you can add the label in OpenStreetMap.
See the screenshot, which shows the interface for the process: you find the
map feature you want to label, log in, enter Edit mode, select the feature,
select your language from a menu, add the label, and upload it.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018#April_18,_2018,_Special_Update_on_Map_Internationalization




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Post by Dhaval S. Vyas
Great work Naveen,
Thanks for sharing. I see some English names on some of the Indic language
maps, is this work in progress? How to have those names displayed in Indic
languages as well?
Thanks in advance,
Dhaval Sudhanva Vyas
Post by Naveen Francis
Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages Wikimedia projects. https://
test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indic_Maps <https://t.co/gnUev595lv>
Thanks,
naveenpf
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Runa Bhattacharjee
2018-04-27 17:11:12 UTC
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Hello,

Joe Matazzoni (cc-ed) is the Product Manager for the maps improvement work,
and wanted to respond on this thread. Unfortunately, none of his messages
got through (most likely stuck in the moderation queue), and he wanted me
to forward this on his behalf. Please find Joe's original message below,
and you can send follow up questions directly to him.

Prior apologies for the possible repeats of this that may hit the list at
some point.

Thanks
Runa

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Begin forwarded message:

*From: *Joe Matazzoni <***@wikimedia.org>
*Subject: **[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages
Wikimedia projects.*
*Date: *April 26, 2018 at 3:03:47 PM PDT
*To: *Wikimediaindia-***@lists.wikimedia.org

Hi Wikimediaindia-l,
I’m the product manager for Map Improvements 2018 [1], at the Wikimedia
Foundation. I’m glad to see enthusiasm for internationalized maps! I have
answers for a few of your questions.
I am not aware of the re-usage policy. Someone from WMF team should clarify...
Gladly. Our maps terms of use [2] state that we do allow use by third
parties, though there is a concern about over-use, so we request that
third parties "please respect our limited services and resources.”
There are also some specific requests about providing info, in case we
need to get in touch with you, and a caveat that:

We reserve the right to discontinue or change our service, block or
limit certain users or applications, or take other measures in cases
at our sole discretion at any time without notice.

So this is something that may or may not work for you, depending on
how large and intensive your map service is. Please have a look at the
terms or use if you’re interested in proceeding.

In answer to Dhaval Sudhanva Vyas’ question about seeing a mix of
different languages, Naveen is correct to quote the Special Update on
Map Internationalization [3], which is the best source of information
on how this all works. I encourage anyone interested to have a look.

You may also wish to experiment with internationalized maps on
testwiki or testwiki2 [4], where the features are currently working.
And here is a page on testwiki2 that shows examples [5]. Later today,
I’ll post a deeper dive into how our service interacts with
OpenStreetMap data, and some of the anomalies that can arise from that
interaction.

So please give internationalized maps a try and leave comments on the
project talk page [6]. Depending on the types of comments we get in the
next few weeks, we hope to be able to release internationalized maps to all
Wikipedias in the next month or so.

Yours,
Joe

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018
[2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Maps_Terms_of_Use
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018#April_18,_2018,_Special_Update_on_Map_Internationalization
[4] https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page or
https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page.
[5] https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_internationalization_examples
[6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Map_improvements_2018

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Wikimedia Foundation, San Francisco
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Manoj Khurana
2018-04-28 01:35:13 UTC
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Hi Friends,
While I appreciate the great effort, I regret that we may not be able to
use it in India as POK and Aksai Chin are not shown as parts of India. Not
only does this hurts the sentiments of Indian readers, it is also certain
to draw flak from media, government and Indian law enforcement agencies. If
possible, please try to resolve this issue.

Thanks and Regards.
Manoj.
U:Anamdas
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Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages Wikimedia projects. https://
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Suyash Dwivedi
2018-04-28 05:32:15 UTC
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+1 Ashwin, Dhaval S. Vyas,Anamdas

Regards
U:Suyash.dwivedi
Post by Manoj Khurana
Hi Friends,
While I appreciate the great effort, I regret that we may not be able to
use it in India as POK and Aksai Chin are not shown as parts of India. Not
only does this hurts the sentiments of Indian readers, it is also certain
to draw flak from media, government and Indian law enforcement agencies. If
possible, please try to resolve this issue.
Thanks and Regards.
Manoj.
U:Anamdas
Post by Naveen Francis
Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages Wikimedia projects. https://
test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indic_Maps <https://t.co/gnUev595lv>
Thanks,
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Joe Matazzoni
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While I appreciate the great effort, I regret that we may not be able to use it in India as POK and Aksai Chin are not shown as parts of India
We are in the middle of working through a task to clearly mark all areas where borders are in dispute between countries: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113008 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113008>

I am not familiar with the areas you mention specifically, but suspect they are well known to pnroman, who is handling this issue. In any case, I added your note to the task, so that you can be sure hie is aware.

Best,
Joe
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"Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge."
Hi Friends,
While I appreciate the great effort, I regret that we may not be able to use it in India as POK and Aksai Chin are not shown as parts of India. Not only does this hurts the sentiments of Indian readers, it is also certain to draw flak from media, government and Indian law enforcement agencies. If possible, please try to resolve this issue.
Thanks and Regards.
Manoj.
U:Anamdas
Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages Wikimedia projects.
https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indic_Maps  <https://t.co/gnUev595lv>
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Ashwin Baindur
2018-05-02 14:59:23 UTC
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Arun, I think the output of your your effort meets the requirement. What
matters is that the Indic language wikis satisfy government regulations.
The details of who claims what can be provided in an article. How to
deploy this solution of yours or how to generate a vector file stored
locally in the Wikipedia rather than in Commons, i.e. what form will be the
final solution ia an issue that needs to be given thought by people who
know more than me.
Post by Manoj Khurana
While I appreciate the great effort, I regret that we may not be able to
use it in India as POK and Aksai Chin are not shown as parts of India
We are in the middle of working through a task to clearly mark all areas
where borders are in dispute between countries: https://
phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113008
I am not familiar with the areas you mention specifically, but suspect
they are well known to pnroman, who is handling this issue. In any case, I
added your note to the task, so that you can be sure hie is aware.
Best,
Joe
_____________________
*Joe Matazzoni*
Product Manager, Collaboration
Wikimedia Foundation, San Francisco
*"Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
the sum of all knowledge." *
Hi Friends,
While I appreciate the great effort, I regret that we may not be able to
use it in India as POK and Aksai Chin are not shown as parts of India. Not
only does this hurts the sentiments of Indian readers, it is also certain
to draw flak from media, government and Indian law enforcement agencies. If
possible, please try to resolve this issue.
Thanks and Regards.
Manoj.
U:Anamdas
Post by Naveen Francis
Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages Wikimedia projects. https://
test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indic_Maps <https://t.co/gnUev595lv>
Thanks,
naveenpf
<http://wikibooks.in/>
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Manoj Khurana
2018-05-02 17:26:11 UTC
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Thanks Joe.
I've seen the response of developer team and that's fair enough (to show
the areas as disputed).

Thanks for your efforts.
Regards,
Manoj
(u: Anamdas)
Post by Manoj Khurana
While I appreciate the great effort, I regret that we may not be able to
use it in India as POK and Aksai Chin are not shown as parts of India
We are in the middle of working through a task to clearly mark all areas
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113008
I am not familiar with the areas you mention specifically, but suspect
they are well known to pnroman, who is handling this issue. In any case, I
added your note to the task, so that you can be sure hie is aware.
Best,
Joe
_____________________
*Joe Matazzoni*
Product Manager, Collaboration
Wikimedia Foundation, San Francisco
*"Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
the sum of all knowledge." *
Hi Friends,
While I appreciate the great effort, I regret that we may not be able to
use it in India as POK and Aksai Chin are not shown as parts of India. Not
only does this hurts the sentiments of Indian readers, it is also certain
to draw flak from media, government and Indian law enforcement agencies. If
possible, please try to resolve this issue.
Thanks and Regards.
Manoj.
U:Anamdas
Post by Naveen Francis
Wikimedia Maps for all Indic languages Wikimedia projects. https://
test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indic_Maps <https://t.co/gnUev595lv>
Thanks,
naveenpf
<http://wikibooks.in/>
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Arun Ganesh
2018-05-03 02:11:56 UTC
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Post by Manoj Khurana
I've seen the response of developer team and that's fair enough (to show
the areas as disputed).
Post by Joe Matazzoni
We are in the middle of working through a task to clearly mark all areas
where borders are in dispute between countries: https://
phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113008
I am not familiar with the areas you mention specifically, but suspect
they are well known to pnroman, who is handling this issue. In any case, I
added your note to the task, so that you can be sure hie is aware.
To match the Govt reference map of correct boundaries, one would need to
hide disputed borders, and show extra claimed areas as a part of India.
This is not easy to do on the tiles and the problem has been explained in
detail on the task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113008#4177170

Arun, I think the output of your your effort meets the requirement. What
Post by Manoj Khurana
matters is that the Indic language wikis satisfy government regulations.
The details of who claims what can be provided in an article. How to
deploy this solution of yours or how to generate a vector file stored
locally in the Wikipedia rather than in Commons, i.e. what form will be the
final solution ia an issue that needs to be given thought by people who
know more than me.
To have this customization built into the mapframe map would need the help
of the WMF engineers on the best way to implement. Have shared my demo on
phabricator, so will just have to wait.
Subhashish Panigrahi
2018-05-03 03:05:07 UTC
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And all such changes should be compliant of US law as the server is located
there, and should only work for Indian IP addresses only?

Subhashish
Post by Arun Ganesh
Post by Manoj Khurana
I've seen the response of developer team and that's fair enough (to show
the areas as disputed).
Post by Joe Matazzoni
We are in the middle of working through a task to clearly mark all areas
where borders are in dispute between countries: https://phabricator
.wikimedia.org/T113008
I am not familiar with the areas you mention specifically, but suspect
they are well known to pnroman, who is handling this issue. In any case, I
added your note to the task, so that you can be sure hie is aware.
To match the Govt reference map of correct boundaries, one would need to
hide disputed borders, and show extra claimed areas as a part of India.
This is not easy to do on the tiles and the problem has been explained in
detail on the task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113008#4177170
Arun, I think the output of your your effort meets the requirement. What
Post by Manoj Khurana
matters is that the Indic language wikis satisfy government regulations.
The details of who claims what can be provided in an article. How to
deploy this solution of yours or how to generate a vector file stored
locally in the Wikipedia rather than in Commons, i.e. what form will be the
final solution ia an issue that needs to be given thought by people who
know more than me.
To have this customization built into the mapframe map would need the
help of the WMF engineers on the best way to implement. Have shared my demo
on phabricator, so will just have to wait.
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Hi Wikimediaindia-l,
I’m the product manager for Map Improvements 2018 [1], at the Wikimedia Foundation. I’m glad to see enthusiasm for internationalized maps! I have answers for a few of your questions.
I am not aware of the re-usage policy. Someone from WMF team should clarify...
Gladly. Our maps terms of use [2] state that we do allow use by third parties, though there is a concern about over-use, so we request that third parties "please respect our limited services and resources.” There are also some specific requests about providing info, in case we need to get in touch with you, and a caveat that:
We reserve the right to discontinue or change our service, block or limit certain users or applications, or take other measures in cases at our sole discretion at any time without notice.

So this is something that may or may not work for you, depending on how large and intensive your map service is. Please have a look at the terms or use if you’re interested in proceeding.
In answer to Dhaval Sudhanva Vyas’ question about seeing a mix of different languages, Naveen is correct to quote the Special Update on Map Internationalization [3], which is the best source of information on how this all works. I encourage anyone interested to have a look.
You may also wish to experiment with internationalized maps on testwiki or testwiki2 [4], where the features are currently working. And here is a page on testwiki2 that shows examples [5]. Later today, I’ll post a deeper dive into how our service interacts with OpenStreetMap data, and some of the anomalies that can arise from that interaction.
So please give internationalized maps a try and leave comments on the project talk page [6]. Depending on the types of comments we get in the next few weeks, we hope to be able to release internationalized maps to all Wikipedias in the next month or so.
Yours,
Joe

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018 <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018>
[2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Maps_Terms_of_Use <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Maps_Terms_of_Use>
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018#April_18,_2018,_Special_Update_on_Map_Internationalization <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018#April_18,_2018,_Special_Update_on_Map_Internationalization>
[4] https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page or https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page.
[5] https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_internationalization_examples
[6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Map_improvements_2018 <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Map_improvements_2018>

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Joe Matazzoni
Product Manager, Collaboration
Wikimedia Foundation, San Francisco


"Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge."
Joe Matazzoni
2018-04-26 22:03:47 UTC
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Hi Wikimediaindia-l,
I’m the product manager for Map Improvements 2018 [1], at the Wikimedia Foundation. I’m glad to see enthusiasm for internationalized maps! I have answers for a few of your questions.
I am not aware of the re-usage policy. Someone from WMF team should clarify...
Gladly. Our maps terms of use [2] state that we do allow use by third parties, though there is a concern about over-use, so we request that third parties "please respect our limited services and resources.” There are also some specific requests about providing info, in case we need to get in touch with you, and a caveat that:
We reserve the right to discontinue or change our service, block or limit certain users or applications, or take other measures in cases at our sole discretion at any time without notice.

So this is something that may or may not work for you, depending on how large and intensive your map service is. Please have a look at the terms or use if you’re interested in proceeding.
In answer to Dhaval Sudhanva Vyas’ question about seeing a mix of different languages, Naveen is correct to quote the Special Update on Map Internationalization [3], which is the best source of information on how this all works. I encourage anyone interested to have a look.
You may also wish to experiment with internationalized maps on testwiki or testwiki2 [4], where the features are currently working. And here is a page on testwiki2 that shows examples [5]. Later today, I’ll post a deeper dive into how our service interacts with OpenStreetMap data, and some of the anomalies that can arise from that interaction.
So please give internationalized maps a try and leave comments on the project talk page [6]. Depending on the types of comments we get in the next few weeks, we hope to be able to release internationalized maps to all Wikipedias in the next month or so.
Yours,
Joe

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018 <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018>
[2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Maps_Terms_of_Use <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Maps_Terms_of_Use>
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018#April_18,_2018,_Special_Update_on_Map_Internationalization <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Map_improvements_2018#April_18,_2018,_Special_Update_on_Map_Internationalization>
[4] https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page <https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page> or https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page <https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page>.
[5] https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_internationalization_examples <https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_internationalization_examples>
[6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Map_improvements_2018 <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Map_improvements_2018>

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Joe Matazzoni
Product Manager, Collaboration
Wikimedia Foundation, San Francisco


"Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge."
Arun Ganesh
2018-04-28 08:48:53 UTC
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Gladly. Our maps terms of use [2] state that we do allow use by third parties, though there is a concern about over-use, so we request that third parties "please respect our limited services and resources.” There are also some specific requests about providing info, in case we need to get in touch with yout the terms or use if you’re interested in proceeding.
Excellent, thank you Joe! These tiles are a great resource that can really
popularize local language maps in India.
Arun Ganesh
2018-04-28 08:59:14 UTC
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I regret that we may not be able to use it in India as POK and Aksai Chin
are not shown as parts of India. Not only does this hurts the sentiments of
Indian readers, it is also certain to draw flak from media, government and
Indian law enforcement agencies. If possible, please try to resolve this
issue.
To do this one would need to render the global map for each language in
multiple versions, one showing the neutral POV as is done currently, and
one customized for India, China etc where the local laws might require
differing representations of the disputed areas.

Its unlikely the WMF will support such a feature, as the maps will no
longer be neutral and will also significantly multiply the resources needed
to maintain so many versions.

There are some hacky solutions for this like overlaying the map with extra
lines that show and hide boundaries on the client side to get the desired
end result. This is a bit of 'map make up' but could very well be
sufficient to avoid any unneeded controversy regarding the map borders.

Tried to make a simple example to demo this, you can see the end result
here: https://jsfiddle.net/planemad/oeeLmg1j/1/
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